Living

____ - ____

Father: Carl Meade Simpson
Mother: Sarah Elizabeth Parker

Family 1 : Jack David West
Family 2 : David Church
  1.  Living
  2.  Living

                                                                          _____________________
                                                                         |                     
                                                 _Conrad Marion Simpson _|_____________________
                                                | (1859 - 1907) m 1883                         
                           _David Earl Simpson _|
                          | (1892 - 1949) m 1912|
                          |                     |                         _Thomas A. Ward _____+
                          |                     |                        | (1830 - 1908) m 1864
                          |                     |_Clara Celeste Ward ____|_Sarah J. Dierdorf __
                          |                       (1864 - 1957) m 1883     (1843 - 1934)       
 _Carl Meade Simpson _____|
| (1913 - 1997)           |
|                         |                                               _____________________
|                         |                                              |                     
|                         |                      ________________________|_____________________
|                         |                     |                                              
|                         |_Edith B. Means _____|
|                           (1891 - 1970) m 1912|
|                                               |                         _____________________
|                                               |                        |                     
|                                               |________________________|_____________________
|                                                                                              
|
|--Living
|  
|                                                                         _____________________
|                                                                        |                     
|                                                ________________________|_____________________
|                                               |                                              
|                          _____________________|
|                         |                     |
|                         |                     |                         _____________________
|                         |                     |                        |                     
|                         |                     |________________________|_____________________
|                         |                                                                    
|_Sarah Elizabeth Parker _|
  (1913 - 1976)           |
                          |                                               _____________________
                          |                                              |                     
                          |                      ________________________|_____________________
                          |                     |                                              
                          |_____________________|
                                                |
                                                |                         _____________________
                                                |                        |                     
                                                |________________________|_____________________
                                                                                               

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Hugh de Creil Count of Clermont

[19618] [19619]

1030 - 1101

Family 1 : Margaret De Montdidier De Roucy
  1. +Adeliza (Adelaide) De Clermont
  2.  Renauld II Count of Clermont
  3.  Ermentrude de Clermont

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[19618] Hugues, COUNT OF CLERMONT in Beauvaisis, by Margaret, daughter ofHilduin, COUNT OF Rouci and MONTDIDIER. [Complete Peerage]

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William Willoughby De Eresby

[8448] [8449] [8450] [8451]

1370 - 30 Nov 1409

Father: William Willoughby Eresby
Mother: Alice Skipwith

Family 1 : Lucy Le Strange
  1. +Elizabeth De Willoughby
  2.  Thomas De Willoughby
  3. +Margaret De Willoughby

                                    __
                                   |  
                                 __|__
                                |     
                              __|
                             |  |
                             |  |   __
                             |  |  |  
                             |  |__|__
                             |        
 _William Willoughby Eresby _|
| (1370 - 1409)              |
|                            |      __
|                            |     |  
|                            |   __|__
|                            |  |     
|                            |__|
|                               |
|                               |   __
|                               |  |  
|                               |__|__
|                                     
|
|--William Willoughby De Eresby 
|  (1370 - 1409)
|                                   __
|                                  |  
|                                __|__
|                               |     
|                             __|
|                            |  |
|                            |  |   __
|                            |  |  |  
|                            |  |__|__
|                            |        
|_Alice Skipwith ____________|
  (1352 - ....)              |
                             |      __
                             |     |  
                             |   __|__
                             |  |     
                             |__|
                                |
                                |   __
                                |  |  
                                |__|__
                                      

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[8448] 5th Lord Of Eresby.

FTM CD194, MA & ME Families, Ancestry of Walter Goodwin Davis, Beaumont,
Ancestry of Nicholas Davis, by W. G. Davis, reprinted 1996, GPC,
Baltimore, pg 151-152:
William, 5th Lord Willoughby de Eresby, son and heir of Robert, 4th Lord
Willoughby de Eresby, by his wife Alice Skipwith, was born about 1370
(aged 24 or 28 at death of his father in 1396). He was present in
Parliament when Richard II resigned the Crown. Knight of the Garter in
or soon after 1400.He m. Lucy Strange, and secondly, abt March, 1406,
Joan, widow of Edmund (Plantagenet), Duke of York and dau. of Thomas
Holand, Earl of Kent. He died Nov. 30, 1409. The family of Willoughby
owes its later prominence to the very fortunate marriage of Sir William
Willoughby of Willoughby, co. Lincoln,
great-great-great-grandfather of the 5th Lord to Alice Beke, dau. and
coheir of John, Lord Beke, of Eresby, co. Lincoln, which manor was part o
f Alice's inheritance. John, Lord Beke, born bef. 1230, was son and
heir of Walter Beke ofEresby by his wife Eve, niece of Walter de Grey,
Archbishop of York. He hadtwo brothers, Thomas Beke, Bishop of St.
David's and Anthony Beke, Bishop ofDurham, Patriarch of Jerusalem and
one of the greatest warriors of his time,whose vast possessions, in many
counties, fell to his brother John's co-heires in 1310/1. Lord Beke, the
name of whose wife is d. s.p.m. after July 18.1301, when he made his
will.

[8447] 5th Lord Willoughby de Eresby

[8444] FTM CD194, MA & ME Fam., V1, pg 151-2

[8445] m. (2) Joan Holand, wid. of Edmund Plntgnt

[8446] Knight of the Garter (K.G.)

[33660] !MARRIAGE:World Family Tree Vol. 5, Ed. 1, World Family
Tree Vol. 5, Ed. 1, Brøderbund Software, INC., Release
date:August 22, 1996

[8449] [S213] John Kahlerl (jbkaherl@aol.com)

[8450] [S213] John Kahlerl (jbkaherl@aol.com)

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Hawise De Lanvallel

ABT 1214 - 1249

Father: William De Lanvallel
Mother: Hawise Basset

Family 1 : John De Burgh
  1.  Maud De Burgh

                                                                      _________________________________________
                                                                     |                                         
                                               ______________________|_________________________________________
                                              |                                                                
                         _____________________|
                        |                     |
                        |                     |                       _________________________________________
                        |                     |                      |                                         
                        |                     |______________________|_________________________________________
                        |                                                                                      
 _William De Lanvallel _|
| (.... - 1217)         |
|                       |                                             _________________________________________
|                       |                                            |                                         
|                       |                      ______________________|_________________________________________
|                       |                     |                                                                
|                       |_____________________|
|                                             |
|                                             |                       _________________________________________
|                                             |                      |                                         
|                                             |______________________|_________________________________________
|                                                                                                              
|
|--Hawise De Lanvallel 
|  (1214 - 1249)
|                                                                     _________________________________________
|                                                                    |                                         
|                                              ______________________|_________________________________________
|                                             |                                                                
|                        _Allan Basset _______|
|                       | (1158 - 1217)       |
|                       |                     |                       _________________________________________
|                       |                     |                      |                                         
|                       |                     |______________________|_________________________________________
|                       |                                                                                      
|_Hawise Basset ________|
                        |
                        |                                             _Robert De Caen Of Gloucester De Mellent_+
                        |                                            | (.... - 1147)                           
                        |                      _Philip FitzRobert ___|_Mabel Fitzhamon ________________________
                        |                     |                        (.... - 1157)                           
                        |_Aline De Grey ______|
                                              |
                                              |                       _________________________________________
                                              |                      |                                         
                                              |_Unknown De Berkeley _|_________________________________________
                                                                                                               

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Margery de Domville

[18374]

ABT 1366 - ____

Family 1 : Hugh de Holes
  1. +Philippa Hulse

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[18374] [S201] Sharon Bearce

[18372] [S538] "FamilySearch Ancestral File v4.19"

[18373] [S524] "Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson"

[33868] [S538] "FamilySearch Ancestral File v4.19"

[33869] [S524] "Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson"

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Katherine De Hastang

[13484]

ABT 1300 - ____

Father: Richard Lovel 1st Lord of Castle Cary
Mother: Muriel Soulis


                                                                                                              __
                                                                                                             |  
                                                                           _Henry Lovel Baron Of Cary Lovel _|__
                                                                          | (1220 - 1281)                       
                                         _Hugh Lovel Baron Of Cary Lovel _|
                                        | (1245 - 1291)                   |
                                        |                                 |                                   __
                                        |                                 |                                  |  
                                        |                                 |_Eve _____________________________|__
                                        |                                   (1226 - ....)                       
 _Richard Lovel 1st Lord of Castle Cary_|
| (1274 - 1351)                         |
|                                       |                                                                     __
|                                       |                                                                    |  
|                                       |                                  __________________________________|__
|                                       |                                 |                                     
|                                       |_Alianore _______________________|
|                                         (1251 - ....)                   |
|                                                                         |                                   __
|                                                                         |                                  |  
|                                                                         |__________________________________|__
|                                                                                                               
|
|--Katherine De Hastang 
|  (1300 - ....)
|                                                                                                             __
|                                                                                                            |  
|                                                                          __________________________________|__
|                                                                         |                                     
|                                        _________________________________|
|                                       |                                 |
|                                       |                                 |                                   __
|                                       |                                 |                                  |  
|                                       |                                 |__________________________________|__
|                                       |                                                                       
|_Muriel Soulis ________________________|
  (1276 - 1318)                         |
                                        |                                                                     __
                                        |                                                                    |  
                                        |                                  __________________________________|__
                                        |                                 |                                     
                                        |_________________________________|
                                                                          |
                                                                          |                                   __
                                                                          |                                  |  
                                                                          |__________________________________|__
                                                                                                                

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James Hemingway

[23859]

10 Jul 1840 - ____

Father: James Hemingway
Mother: Hope Malmsbury


                                                                    _Joshua Hemingway ___________+
                                                                   | (1697 - 1754) m 1718        
                                              _Isaac Hemingway ____|_Abiagil Morse ______________
                                             | (1730 - 1778) m 1754  (1695 - 1739)               
                       _James Hemingway _____|
                      | (1760 - 1822) m 1785 |
                      |                      |                      _James Haven ________________+
                      |                      |                     | (1709 - 1762)               
                      |                      |_Elizabeth Haven ____|_Sarah, Wife Of James Haven _
                      |                        (1736 - 1782) m 1754  (1705 - 1762)               
 _James Hemingway ____|
| (1801 - 1893) m 1823|
|                     |                                             _____________________________
|                     |                                            |                             
|                     |                       _____________________|_____________________________
|                     |                      |                                                   
|                     |_Elizabeth Armstrong _|
|                       (1757 - 1837) m 1785 |
|                                            |                      _____________________________
|                                            |                     |                             
|                                            |_____________________|_____________________________
|                                                                                                
|
|--James Hemingway 
|  (1840 - ....)
|                                                                   _John Malmsbury _____________
|                                                                  | (1710 - 1767) m 1736        
|                                             _John Malmsbury _____|_Mary Bowker ________________
|                                            | (1744 - 1797) m 1771  (.... - 1746)               
|                      _Benjamin Malmsbury __|
|                     | (1779 - 1854) m 1801 |
|                     |                      |                      _John Doane _________________+
|                     |                      |                     | (1716 - 1788) m 1739        
|                     |                      |_Rebecca Doane ______|_Hannah Wilson ______________
|                     |                        (1754 - ....) m 1771  (1720 - ....)               
|_Hope Malmsbury _____|
  (1804 - 1865) m 1823|
                      |                                             _____________________________
                      |                                            |                             
                      |                       _James Cattell ______|_____________________________
                      |                      | (1743 - 1806) m 1763                              
                      |_Jane Cattell ________|
                        (1780 - 1853) m 1801 |
                                             |                      _____________________________
                                             |                     |                             
                                             |_Hope Gaskill _______|_____________________________
                                               (1743 - ....) m 1763                              

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Christian Montgomery

[32212]

____ - 9 Sep 1575

Father: John Montgomery, Master of Eglinton
Mother: Elizabeth Edmonstone

Family 1 : James Douglas 7th of Drumlanrig
  1. +Christian Douglas
  2. +William Douglas of Hawick

                                                                                                                     _Alexander, Master of Montgomery __+
                                                                                                                    | (.... - 1452)                     
                                                                                 _Alexander Montgomery 2nd Lord_____|_Elizabeth Hepburn ________________
                                                                                | (.... - 1455)                                                         
                                        _Hugh Montgomery, 1st Earl of Eglinton _|
                                       |                                        |
                                       |                                        |                                    ___________________________________
                                       |                                        |                                   |                                   
                                       |                                        |_Catherine Kennedy ________________|___________________________________
                                       |                                                                                                                
 _John Montgomery, Master of Eglinton _|
| (.... - 1520)                        |
|                                      |                                                                             _Archibald Gillespic Campbell _____+
|                                      |                                                                            | (1405 - 1440)                     
|                                      |                                         _Colin Campbell 1st Earl of Argyll_|_Elizabeth Sommerville ____________
|                                      |                                        | (1433 - 1493) m 1450                (1413 - ....)                     
|                                      |_Helen Campbell ________________________|
|                                        (1460 - 1528)                          |
|                                                                               |                                    _John Stewart 2nd Lord Lorn________+
|                                                                               |                                   | (1400 - 1463)                     
|                                                                               |_Elizabeth (Isabel) Stewart _______|_Florence\Flora\Fingula Macdonald _
|                                                                                 (1437 - 1510) m 1450                (1420 - 1463)                     
|
|--Christian Montgomery 
|  (.... - 1575)
|                                                                                                                    ___________________________________
|                                                                                                                   |                                   
|                                                                                ___________________________________|___________________________________
|                                                                               |                                                                       
|                                       ________________________________________|
|                                      |                                        |
|                                      |                                        |                                    ___________________________________
|                                      |                                        |                                   |                                   
|                                      |                                        |___________________________________|___________________________________
|                                      |                                                                                                                
|_Elizabeth Edmonstone ________________|
                                       |
                                       |                                                                             ___________________________________
                                       |                                                                            |                                   
                                       |                                         ___________________________________|___________________________________
                                       |                                        |                                                                       
                                       |________________________________________|
                                                                                |
                                                                                |                                    ___________________________________
                                                                                |                                   |                                   
                                                                                |___________________________________|___________________________________
                                                                                                                                                        

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Lt. Jonathan Morse

[28151]

8 Jan 1642 - 20 Aug 1727

Father: Daniel Morse
Mother: Lydia (Liddia) Fisher

Family 1 : Mary Barbour
  1. +Lydia Morse

                                                                              _Thomas Morse _________________+
                                                                             | (1519 - 1567) m 1535          
                                                        _Thomas Morse _______|_Agnes ________________________
                                                       | (1567 - 1597) m 1573  (1521 - 1574)                 
                          _Samuel "The Puritan" Morse _|
                         | (1576 - 1654) m 1602        |
                         |                             |                      _Thomas King __________________+
                         |                             |                     | (1533 - ....) m 1550          
                         |                             |_Margaret King ______|_Rebecca ______________________
                         |                               (1552 - 1585) m 1573  (1535 - 1605)                 
 _Daniel Morse __________|
| (1613 - 1688)          |
|                        |                                                    _______________________________
|                        |                                                   |                               
|                        |                              _Lancelot Jasper ____|_______________________________
|                        |                             | (1750 - ....)                                       
|                        |_Elizabeth Jasper ___________|
|                          (1579 - 1655) m 1602        |
|                                                      |                      _______________________________
|                                                      |                     |                               
|                                                      |_Rose _______________|_______________________________
|                                                        (1750 - ....)                                       
|
|--Lt. Jonathan Morse 
|  (1642 - 1727)
|                                                                             _William Fisher _______________+
|                                                                            | (.... - 1591) m 1551          
|                                                       _Anthony Fisher _____|_Margaret (Margery Joan) Bert _
|                                                      | (.... - 1640) m 1586  (1530 - 1591)                 
|                         _Anthony Fisher _____________|
|                        | (1591 - 1671)               |
|                        |                             |                      _Nicholas Fiske _______________+
|                        |                             |                     | (1517 - 1569)                 
|                        |                             |_Mary Fiske _________|_Johane Crispe ________________
|                        |                               (1566 - 1640) m 1586  (1519 - ....)                 
|_Lydia (Liddia) Fisher _|
  (1620 - 1689)          |
                         |                                                    _______________________________
                         |                                                   |                               
                         |                              _Mr. Buckingham _____|_______________________________
                         |                             | (1550 - 1623)                                       
                         |_Mary Buckingham ____________|
                           (1592 - 1663)               |
                                                       |                      _______________________________
                                                       |                     |                               
                                                       |_____________________|_______________________________
                                                                                                             

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James Sawyer

ABT 1814 - ____

Father: James Sawyer
Mother: Hannah Henderson


                                                                                ____________________________
                                                                               |                            
                                             __________________________________|____________________________
                                            |                                                               
                       _____________________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |                                   ____________________________
                      |                     |                                  |                            
                      |                     |__________________________________|____________________________
                      |                                                                                     
 _James Sawyer _______|
| (1784 - 1850) m 1804|
|                     |                                                         ____________________________
|                     |                                                        |                            
|                     |                      __________________________________|____________________________
|                     |                     |                                                               
|                     |_____________________|
|                                           |
|                                           |                                   ____________________________
|                                           |                                  |                            
|                                           |__________________________________|____________________________
|                                                                                                           
|
|--James Sawyer 
|  (1814 - ....)
|                                                                               _William Henderson _________+
|                                                                              | (1707 - ....) m 1722       
|                                            _Cairns Henderson ________________|_Florence Kearns ___________
|                                           | (1724 - 1793) m 1749               (1705 - ....)              
|                      _Michael Henderson __|
|                     | (1752 - 1850) m 1775|
|                     |                     |                                   _Andrew Robinson ___________+
|                     |                     |                                  | (1700 - 1797)              
|                     |                     |_Elizabeth Robinson ______________|_Agnes Boal ________________
|                     |                       (1724 - 1805) m 1749               (1702 - 1792)              
|_Hannah Henderson ___|
  (1785 - 1870) m 1804|
                      |                                                         _Hugh Barnett Sr.___________
                      |                                                        | (.... - 1798)              
                      |                      _Hugh Jr Barnett _________________|_Elizabeth Unknown _________
                      |                     | (1733 - 1786) m 1752               (.... - 1798)              
                      |_Hannah Barnett _____|
                        (1755 - 1849) m 1775|
                                            |                                   _Walter Ashmore ____________+
                                            |                                  | (1700 - 1792) m 1736       
                                            |_Elizabeth Charity "Edy" Ashmore _|_Margret "Margery" Lindley _
                                              (1738 - 1775) m 1752               (1712 - 1767)              

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Imogene V. Sedenbaugh

14 Feb 1908 - ____

Father: Fred E. Sedenbaugh
Mother: Eva Brownlie


                                                                   _____________________
                                                                  |                     
                                             _John Sedenbaugh ____|_____________________
                                            | (1818 - ....) m 1842                      
                       _James H. Sedenburg _|
                      | (1851 - 1923)       |
                      |                     |                      _James Gifford ______
                      |                     |                     |                     
                      |                     |_Martha Ann Gifford _|_Rebecca Groves _____
                      |                       (1826 - ....) m 1842                      
 _Fred E. Sedenbaugh _|
| (1879 - ....) m 1906|
|                     |                                            _Jonathan Brattain __+
|                     |                                           | (1788 - 1862) m 1806
|                     |                      _Solomon Brattain ___|_Anna Gardner _______
|                     |                     | (1809 - 1886) m 1829  (1784 - 1830)       
|                     |_Victoria Brattain __|
|                       (1856 - ....)       |
|                                           |                      _Peter Lennen _______
|                                           |                     | (1792 - ....)       
|                                           |_Anne Lennen ________|_Amelia Unknown _____
|                                             (1812 - 1891) m 1829                      
|
|--Imogene V. Sedenbaugh 
|  (1908 - ....)
|                                                                  _____________________
|                                                                 |                     
|                                            _____________________|_____________________
|                                           |                                           
|                      _____________________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |                      _____________________
|                     |                     |                     |                     
|                     |                     |_____________________|_____________________
|                     |                                                                 
|_Eva Brownlie _______|
   m 1906             |
                      |                                            _____________________
                      |                                           |                     
                      |                      _____________________|_____________________
                      |                     |                                           
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |                      _____________________
                                            |                     |                     
                                            |_____________________|_____________________
                                                                                        

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[734] [S44] Birth Record, Howard County, Indiana Book CH-3, p. 11

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ADELAIDE (Estefania or Godehildis) de Toni

[27138] [27139]

ABT 1004 - 1051

Father: RAYMOND Borrell I of Barcelona
Mother: Ermensinde of Carcassonne


                                                                                                                _Winifred Barcelona _____________
                                                                                                               | (0840 - ....)                   
                                                                             _SUNIFRED, Count de Urgel ________|_________________________________
                                                                            | (0878 - 0948) m 0920                                               
                                   _Raymond II Borrell, Count of Barcelona _|
                                  | (.... - 0992) m 0968                    |
                                  |                                         |                                   _Armengol ' Toulouse ____________
                                  |                                         |                                  | (0854 - 0937) m 0882            
                                  |                                         |_Richilde de Rouergue ____________|_Adelaide de Toulouse ___________
                                  |                                           (0892 - 0954) m 0920               (0858 - ....)                   
 _RAYMOND Borrell I of Barcelona _|
| (0972 - ....)                   |
|                                 |                                                                             _Raymond II of Toulouse _________+
|                                 |                                                                            | (.... - 0924) m 0921            
|                                 |                                          _Raimond III Toulouse ____________|_Guidenilde of Toulouse _________
|                                 |                                         | (0921 - ....) m 0946               (.... - 1060)                   
|                                 |_Ledgarde de Rouergue ___________________|
|                                   (0954 - 0997) m 0968                    |
|                                                                           |                                   _________________________________
|                                                                           |                                  |                                 
|                                                                           |_Garsinde Bertha De Gascogne _____|_________________________________
|                                                                             (.... - 0972) m 0946                                               
|
|--ADELAIDE (Estefania or Godehildis) de Toni 
|  (1004 - 1051)
|                                                                                                               _Asnarius Comminges _____________
|                                                                                                              |                                 
|                                                                            _Arnaud-I Count of Comminges _____|_________________________________
|                                                                           | (0898 - 0957) m 0940                                               
|                                  _Roger I Count of Carcassonne ___________|
|                                 | (0945 - 1012) m 0970                    |
|                                 |                                         |                                   _Acfred II Count of Carcassonne _+
|                                 |                                         |                                  | (0890 - 0937)                   
|                                 |                                         |_Arsinde Countess of Carcassonne _|_________________________________
|                                 |                                           (0920 - ....) m 0940                                               
|_Ermensinde of Carcassonne ______|
  (0975 - ....)                   |
                                  |                                                                             _________________________________
                                  |                                                                            |                                 
                                  |                                          _Bernard II Comte de Melgueil ____|_________________________________
                                  |                                         | (0933 - 0989)                                                      
                                  |_Adelaide de Saintonge Melgueil _________|
                                    (.... - 1011) m 0970                    |
                                                                            |                                   _________________________________
                                                                            |                                  |                                 
                                                                            |_Senegunde _______________________|_________________________________
                                                                              (0937 - ....)                                                      

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[27138] Also Known As:<_AKA> Stephanie /Bigorre/ [jweber6A.ged]

[g] Roger, son of Count Rodulf married, in Spain, Stephanie, sister of Raymond Berenger; which lady afterwards m. Garsias, King of Spain. This agrees with the statement of Ademar, that he m. a da. (unnamed) of the widowed Ermensede, Countess of Barcelona, the mother of Raymond above named. If this Roger were Roger de Toeni, he married Godeheut while his 1st wife was alive, and Stephanie m. Garsias III, King of Navarre,while Roger was living. [Complete Peerage XII/1:756 note (g)]

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Roger Toeni's 1st wife, Stephanie, is questioned by some; especially her 2nd marriage to Garcias of Spain while Toeni was still alive. I agree that it does not make much sense. However, Roger was fighting battles in Spain and could have "married" a Spanish lady whom he later "divorced" when he returned to Normandy. It has been speculated that Stephanie was mother of Robert de Toeni of Belvoir (as opposed to the younger son Robert deStafford) and of a Berenger de Toeni, whose ancestry is not known, but is likely (especially with the name) to be a son of Roger & Stephanie.

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!Following copied from a post by Bryant Smith to the soc.genealogy.medieval newgroup: From:Bryant Smith (skip31@racsa.co.cr) Subject: STEPHANIE OF BARCELONA AND HER FOURFATHERS Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2001-12-12 09:14:14 PST

"Success has a thousand fathers but failure is an orphan" (JFK,misquoting Count Galeazzo Ciano's "Victory finds a thousand fathers but defeat is always an orphan") and by that measure Estafania was moderately successful, for she has found at least four fathers. These four alternative fathers, with samples of their sponsors, are:

1. Bernard-Roger de Foix. Said by TAF to be the "traditional" one, and found as such in ES and, probably based on that, in Brian Tomsett's database, in the Theroff text files, in the Roglo database, andelsewhere.As recently as July 14, 1999, TAF was able to write "... all Iberian works with which I am familiar (and as recent as 1996) are unitedin calling the Queen of Navarre the daughter, not of Ramon Borrel and Ermesende, but of her brother Bernard, Count of Bigorre, and sister of the Queen of Aragon." This is vintage TAF obscurantism, but becomes clear when you read "Queen of Navarre" as Sephanie the wife of Garcia IV/VSanchez of Navarre and "Queen of Aragon" as Gerberge, undoubted daughter of Bernard-Roger and wife of Ramiro I Sanchez of Aragon,

2. Ramon I Borel of Barcelona, husband of the Ermesinda rejected by allIberian works with which TAF was familiar in mid-1999. This pastDecember 8TAF wrote that the Roger-Bernard paternity "is based on a late source, and a more contemporary one calls her daughter of the Countess Ermesende. (This Catalonian variant has only become popular within the last several years.)" Tempora mutantur et nos in eis mutamur?

3. Ramon Berenguer I of Barcelona, grandson son of Ramon I Borel andErmesinda. Keats-Rohan is said to have called him the father of Stephanie in K S B Keats-Rohan *Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons occurring in English Documents,1066-1166* (The Boydell Press: Woodbridge, 1999), according to Richard Borthwick who said in this NG,January 14 1999(in anannotated AT of William (II) d' Aubigny of Belvoir) that "The wife of Roger was Estefania/Stephanie (not Adelaide) sister of Ramon Berenguer I and not his daughter as claimed by Keats-Rohan."

4. Berenguer Ramon I of Barcelona, son of#2 and father of #3. This is Borthwick's horse and is, incidentally, also backed by a pre-1996 Iberian work with which TAF was evidentally unfamiliar in 1999, even though ithad been mentioned in this NG on 19 January 1997 by Valerio P.Lucchinetti: "According to Diccionario de Historia de Espana, dir.by German Bleiberg, Madrid 1979, Queen Estefania,

[27139] [S201] Sharon Bearce

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