Anne Balistarius

[17044]

Abt 1200-1210 - ____

Family 1 : Simon de Saint Liz
  1. +William de Senlis

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Barbara de Seton

[10922]

ABT 1216 - ____

Father: Adam de Seton
Mother: Jane Gifford

Family 1 : William De Keith
  1.  Robert Keith Marischal Of Scot
  2.  Richard Keith
  3.  Philip De Keith Rector Of Biggar
  4.  Unknown Keith
  5. +Edward De Keith Marischal Of Scotland

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                                                                                  |                                    
                                               ___________________________________|____________________________________
                                              |                                                                        
                       _Alexander de Seton ___|
                      | (1195 - ....)         |
                      |                       |                                    ____________________________________
                      |                       |                                   |                                    
                      |                       |___________________________________|____________________________________
                      |                                                                                                
 _Adam de Seton ______|
|                     |
|                     |                                                            _Unknown de Berkeley 2nd of Gartley_+
|                     |                                                           |                                    
|                     |                        _Walter De Berkeley 3rd of Gartley_|____________________________________
|                     |                       | (.... - 1190) m 1166                                                   
|                     |_Margaret de Berkeley _|
|                                             |
|                                             |                                    _Uctred Macdonald Lord Of Galloway _+
|                                             |                                   | (.... - 1174) m 1156               
|                                             |_Eva of Galloway __________________|_Gunnild of Dunbar _________________
|                                                m 1166                                                                
|
|--Barbara de Seton 
|  (1216 - ....)
|                                                                                  ____________________________________
|                                                                                 |                                    
|                                              ___________________________________|____________________________________
|                                             |                                                                        
|                      _______________________|
|                     |                       |
|                     |                       |                                    ____________________________________
|                     |                       |                                   |                                    
|                     |                       |___________________________________|____________________________________
|                     |                                                                                                
|_Jane Gifford _______|
                      |
                      |                                                            ____________________________________
                      |                                                           |                                    
                      |                        ___________________________________|____________________________________
                      |                       |                                                                        
                      |_______________________|
                                              |
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[10922] [S198] Eldridge, D'Aiutolo

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Anne De Welles

[8469] [8470]

Abt 1359-1371 - AFT 1396

Father: John De Welles
Mother: Margaret (Eleanor) De Mowbray

Family 1 : James 3rd Earl Of Ormonde Botiller
  1.  Ralph Botiller
  2. +James "The White Earl" Botiller

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                                                                                                                             |                                                
                                                                           _Adam De Welles __________________________________|________________________________________________
                                                                          | (1304 - 1345)                                                                                     
                                  _John De Welles ________________________|
                                 |  m 1348                                |
                                 |                                        |                                                   ________________________________________________
                                 |                                        |                                                  |                                                
                                 |                                        |_Margaret Eleanor Bardolf ________________________|________________________________________________
                                 |                                          (1314 - 1344)                                                                                     
 _John De Welles ________________|
| (.... - 1421) m 1371           |
|                                |                                                                                            _William De Ros ________________________________+
|                                |                                                                                           | (1270 - 1316)                                  
|                                |                                         _William De Ros __________________________________|_Maud De Vaux __________________________________
|                                |                                        | (1290 - 1342) m 1325                               (1230 - 1293)                                  
|                                |_Maud De Ros ___________________________|
|                                  (.... - 1388) m 1348                   |
|                                                                         |                                                   _Bartholomew De Badlesmere Lord Badelesmere 1st_+
|                                                                         |                                                  | (1275 - 1322) m 1308                           
|                                                                         |_Margery De Badlesmere ___________________________|_Margaret De Clare _____________________________
|                                                                           (1315 - 1363) m 1325                               (1280 - 1333)                                  
|
|--Anne De Welles 
|  (.... - 1396)
|                                                                                                                             _John de Mowbray Lord Mowbray 2nd_______________+
|                                                                                                                            | (.... - 1322)                                  
|                                                                          _John De Mowbray Lord Mowbray_____________________|_Aline Multon __________________________________
|                                                                         | (1310 - 1361) m 1327                               (1298 - ....)                                  
|                                 _John De Mowbray 4th Baron Mowbray______|
|                                | (1340 - 1368)                          |
|                                |                                        |                                                   _Henry Plantagenet Earl Of Lancaster 3rd________+
|                                |                                        |                                                  | (1281 - 1345) m 1297                           
|                                |                                        |_Joan Plantagenet ________________________________|_Maud Chatworth ________________________________
|                                |                                          (.... - 1349) m 1327                               (.... - 1322)                                  
|_Margaret (Eleanor) De Mowbray _|
  (1356 - ....) m 1371           |
                                 |                                                                                            ________________________________________________
                                 |                                                                                           |                                                
                                 |                                         _John Segrave, Lord Segrave 4th___________________|________________________________________________
                                 |                                        | (1306 - 1353)                                                                                     
                                 |_Elizabeth Seagrave, Baroness Seagrave _|
                                   (1338 - ....)                          |
                                                                          |                                                   _Thomas Of Brotherton Plantagenet ______________+
                                                                          |                                                  | (1300 - 1338) m 1316                           
                                                                          |_Margaret Marshall Plantagenet Duchess Of Norfolk_|_Alice Hayles __________________________________
                                                                            (1321 - 1399)                                      (.... - 1326)                                  

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[8469] [S210] Dave Anthes (daveanthes@juno.com)

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William ap Thomas Herbert

[18389] [18390] [18391] [18392]

Abt 1392-1401 - 1446

Father: Thomas ap Guillem (Herbert)
Mother: Maud De Morley

Family 1 : Gwladus verch Dafydd
  1. +William Herbert
  2.  Margaret Herbert
  3. +Elizabeth Herbert
Family 2 : Cari Ddu
  1.  John ap William
Family 3 : Elizabeth Bluet

                                                                                                _Adam FitzHerbert _______+
                                                                                               |                         
                                                               _Jenkin (John-Herbert) ap Adam _|_Christian Verch Gwarin _
                                                              |                                                          
                                _Guillem (William) ap Jenkin _|
                               | (1347 - 1377) m 1370         |
                               |                              |                                 _Aron ap Bledri _________
                               |                              |                                | (1279 - ....)           
                               |                              |_Gwenlain verch Aron ___________|_________________________
                               |                                (1328 - ....)                                            
 _Thomas ap Guillem (Herbert) _|
| (1372 - 1438) m 1392         |
|                              |                                                                _Hywel Ap Einion ________
|                              |                                                               | (1268 - ....)           
|                              |                               _Hywel "Fychan" Ap Hywel _______|_Letis Ferch Cadwaladr __
|                              |                              |                                  (1274 - ....)           
|                              |_Gwenlian verch Hywel ________|
|                                (1350 - ....) m 1370         |
|                                                             |                                 _________________________
|                                                             |                                |                         
|                                                             |_Alice verch Llewelyn __________|_________________________
|                                                               (1306 - ....)                                            
|
|--William ap Thomas Herbert 
|  (.... - 1446)
|                                                                                               _________________________
|                                                                                              |                         
|                                                              _Robert De Morley ______________|_________________________
|                                                             |  m 1334                                                  
|                               _John de Morley ______________|
|                              | (1346 - ....)                |
|                              |                              |                                 _________________________
|                              |                              |                                |                         
|                              |                              |_Joan de Tyes __________________|_________________________
|                              |                                (1315 - 1358) m 1334                                     
|_Maud De Morley ______________|
  (1375 - ....) m 1392         |
                               |                                                                _________________________
                               |                                                               |                         
                               |                               ________________________________|_________________________
                               |                              |                                                          
                               |______________________________|
                                                              |
                                                              |                                 _________________________
                                                              |                                |                         
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[18389] Other sources:

Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500, Vol 3 - pp 86, 104; Vol 4 - pg 202; Vol 6 pp 378, 422, 425, 439; Vol 8 pg 622 (FHL # 6025561)
Wales Visitation, Vol 1 - pp 292-3, 295, 312; Vol 2 - pg 165; Vol 5- pp 740, 785. 790 (FHL 942,9 D2fw)
Peerage (Burke), 1876 - pg 923 (FHL 942 D22bup)
Peerage (Burke), 1967 - pg 2039 (FHL 942 D22bup)
Baronagium Genealogicum, Vol 3 - pg 263 (FHL #0164680
Buckingham Co History, Vol 1 - pg 297 (FHL Q942.575 H2li)
Commoners, Vol 2 - pg 24; Vol 4 - pp 552fn, 730 (FHL 942 B2bc)
Miscellanea Genealogica 5s, Vol 5 - pg 188 (FHL 942 B2m)
Archaeologica Cambrensis 5s, Vol 1 - pg 288 (FHL 942.9 B2c)
Wallop Family, vol2 - pg 422 (FHL Q942.242 W159w)
Derbyshire Archaelogical Journal, Vol 31 - p 204 (FHL 942.51 B2a)
Monmouthshire History, Vol 1 - pp 47, 165, 185, 189, 285; Vol 2 - pg 12, Vol 4 - pg 300 (FHL #0990053-54)
Brecknockshire, Vol 2 - pg 394 (FHL Q942.965 H2j)
Carmarthenshire Sheriffs - pp 5, 34, 65 (FHL 942.98 D2b)
Dorset History Society Proceedings, Vol 66 - pg 83 (FHL 942.33 C4d)
Montgomeryshire Collections, Vol 2 - ped; Vol 3 pg 341; Vol 5 pg 159 (FHL 942.94 C4mp)
Robertson et Durdin -tb198 (FHL 929.242 R545r)
Monmouthshire Historical Tour - pp 148, 171 (FHL 942.43 H2cw)
Wales County Annmacls - pp 777 (FHL #0832242)
Herberts of Wilton - pg 2 (FHL 929.242 H414)
Morgan and Blamorgan Geneologies - pp 195, 280, 306 (FHL 942.97 D2c)
Earl of Pembroke - ped (FHL #104324)
Herbert Pedigrees - pg 4 (FHL #8026552 it3-4)
Dorst Antiquarian Club, Vol 66 - pg 83 (FHL 942.33 C4d)
Chepstow Catle Annals - pp 178, 270 (FHL 942.43/C1 D2m)
Herbert Correspondence - ped (FHL 942.9 B4b #21)


The house of Herbert is of somewhat dubious origin. There are three accounts of its prime ancestor. 1) ghe race springs from Herbert, a natural sone of Henry I of England (this version has never met with acceptance), 2) gives Henry Fitz Herbert, Chamberlain to Henry I as prime ancestor, 3) henry Fitz Herbert, the Chamberlain was son of Herbert, son of Godwin, son of Elfryd, and that the said Herbert married the daughter of Godwin, Earl of Kent.

WALES AND ENGLISH POLITICS. Stability of government in England was in essence bad news for Wales, for in such a context the Welsh were frozen into their subordinate social position. However the outbreak of civil war in England from 1455, and the fact that both Yorkist and Lancastrian factions in that civil war needed to optimise their support in Wales created a more favourable context for Welshpolitics. The objective of both Yorkists and Lancastrians was best achieved by nurturing Welsh leaders capable of mobilising the native Welsh to their respective cause. That in turn implied that the Welsh - throughout the Wars of the Roses - were strongly placed to bargain for the amelioration of their social
subjection. The ending of the first stage of the civil war in a Yorkist victory in March 1461 highlighted that reality for Sir William Herbert was entrusted with the role of chief justice and chamberlain of South Wales as well as a host of other responsibilities and lands. In 1463 his role was extended into North Wales with his appointment as chamberlain and chief justice of Meirioneth. In February 1462 he also secured custody of the five year old Henry Tudor (son of Edmund Tudor) whom he had captured at Pembroke in 1461. Henry was thus reared in the Welsh speaking Herbert household. Herbert's responsibilities and powers were further enhanced during the late 1460's by which time he dominated Welsh politics. His role ended abruptly in July 1469 when he was executed following defeat and capture by Lancastrian forces at the battle of Banbury. See : Fig 48 Monument of Sir William ap Thomas of Raglan p238. Also : Fig 49 Seal of Sir William Herbert of Raglan p239. In : M.P.Siddons - The Development of Welsh Heraldry Vol 1, National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth 1993. THE STRUGGLE FOR WELSH BARDIC SUPPORT. Both the Yorkist and Lancastrian camp were strongly represented in Wales. Richard duke of York was a Marcher lord who secured more than half his annmacl income from Wales - 3,430 from Wales as compared to c 3,230 from England. Edmund and Jasper Tudor were the sons of Owain Tudur and half brothers of Henry VI. Edmund earl of Richmond was sent to Wales to strengthen the royal position, and his son Henry Tudor was born at Pembroke castle in January 1457, two months after his fathers death. In that context Jasper Tudor as earl of Pembroke assumed the role vacated by his brother. Both sides recognised the importance of bardic support and thus patronised the bards. Owain Tudur and his family had long been patrons - a tradition sustained by Jasper. For the Yorkists William Herbert played a central role in securing bardic support. As a consequence, during the Wars of the Roses the bards sought to promote Welsh interests through both of the contending factions. A WELSH UCHELWR WITHIN THE YORKIST CAMP. William Herbert was the anglicised name of William ap William a descendant of the leading Brecon family. His grandfather was Dafydd Gam, an opponent of the Owain Glyn Dwr revolt who died at Agincourt in 1415. Dafydd's son, William ap Thomas purchased the Raglan estate in 1430. William Herbert built on that foundation being admitted to the House of Lords and elevated to a Knight of the Garter. In 1466 the king created the lordship of Raglan, (the last Marcher lordship created in Wales) in appreciation of services rendered by Herbert. THE WAR OF THE ROSES AND BRYTHONIC TRADITION. In keeping with Brythonic tradition a great feast was held at Raglan prior to departure for Banbury. On the eve of battle, when disagreement between Herbert and the earl of Devon led to the withdrawal of the latter from the scene of battle - traditional visions of the Welsh inflicting defeat on their Saxon enemies were to strongly motivate the forces under Herbert. Despite the fact that this was a battle in an 'English' civil war, the Welsh forces were motivated by long established Brythonic imagery.

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William ap Thomas was the member of a minor Welsh gentry family and was responsible for beginning the construction of Raglan Castle as we recognize it today. He obtained Raglan through his marriage to Elizabeth Bloet, widow of Sir James Berkeley shortly after 1406. When Elizabeth died in 1420, ap Thomas retained Raglan as a tenant of his step-son James, Lord Berkeley, and in 1425 Lord Berkeley agreed that he could continue to hold Raglan for the duration of his life.

William married for a second time, and chose another heiress, Gwladus. She was the daughter of Sir Dafydd Gam and the widow of Sir Roger Vaughan. Both these men had been part of the Welsh contingent that fought with King Henry V in France, and both were at the battle of Agincourt, where William ap Thomas had also fought. In 1426, ap Thomas was knighted by Henry VI, becoming known to his compatriots as Y marchog glas o Went (the blue knight of Gwent). Gradmaclly he began to establish himself as a person of consequence in south Wales.

As early as 1421 William held the important position of steward of the lordship of Abergavenny, and later became chief steward of the duke of York's estates in Wales, 1442-43. Other positions held by Sir William included that of sheriff of Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire, to which he was appointed in 1435, and his position as sheriff of Glamorgan followed in 1440. Although he became one of the followers of Richard, duke of York, and a member of the duke's military council, Sir William's sphere of influence was largely confined to south Wales.

By 1432 William was in a position to purchase the manor of Raglan from the Berkeleys for about L667 and it was probably from this time that he began to build the castle as we know it. His building programme eventually swept away most of the original structures. The principal buildings surviving from this time are the Great Tower (left) a self-contained fortress in its own right, together with the south gate, both equipped with gunloops. He also raised the hall, though later largely rebuilt, and part of the service range beyond. Two sources indicate that William ap Thomas was the builder of the keep. One of which is a contemporary poem praising ap Thomas, mentioning the tower at Raglan which "stands above all other buildings." There is also a reference to Sir William Thomas' tower from a family chronicle written by Sir Thomas Herbert of Tintern.

William ap Thomas died in London in 1445, and his body was brought back to Wales to be buried in the Benedictine priory church at Abergavenny. His wife Gwladus (the star of Abergavenny), as she was hailed by the poet Lewys Glyn Cothi, died in 1454. William was succeeded by his eldest son, another William (d.1469) who took the surname Herbert.

[18388] Agincourt, for valour in wars in France

[18390] [S537] Jane Williams Flank

[18391] [S537] Jane Williams Flank

[18392] [S201] Sharon Bearce

[18383] [S232] Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd

[18384] [S693] History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}

[18385] [S694] Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}

[18386] [S695] Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith {GenealogyLibrary.com}

[18387] [S696] Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940; John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins, Ed. {1957}

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Agness De Shoyswell

[14632]

ABT 1401 - BEF 1423

Family 1 : Thomas Echingham

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[33799] First Wife

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Elizabeth Upton

ABT 1556 - 7 Jan 1629

Father: Geoffrey Upton
Mother: Mary Hone

Family 1 : William Strode
  1. +William Strode Jr.

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                                                                       |  
                                                  _William Upton ______|__
                                                 |                        
                       _John Upton ______________|
                      | (1480 - ....) m 1510     |
                      |                          |                      __
                      |                          |                     |  
                      |                          |_Isabel Rosmadres ___|__
                      |                                                   
 _Geoffrey Upton _____|
| (1511 - 1583) m 1550|
|                     |                                                 __
|                     |                                                |  
|                     |                           _____________________|__
|                     |                          |                        
|                     |_Elizabeth Leversedge ____|
|                       (1480 - ....) m 1510     |
|                                                |                      __
|                                                |                     |  
|                                                |_____________________|__
|                                                                         
|
|--Elizabeth Upton 
|  (1556 - 1629)
|                                                                       __
|                                                                      |  
|                                                 _____________________|__
|                                                |                        
|                      _Robert (Or Thomas) Hone _|
|                     | (1490 - 1543)            |
|                     |                          |                      __
|                     |                          |                     |  
|                     |                          |_____________________|__
|                     |                                                   
|_Mary Hone __________|
  (1520 - ....) m 1550|
                      |                                                 __
                      |                                                |  
                      |                           _____________________|__
                      |                          |                        
                      |_Johane Unknown __________|
                        (1490 - ....)            |
                                                 |                      __
                                                 |                     |  
                                                 |_____________________|__
                                                                          

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[2292] [S126] The History of Nantucket Island, Alexander Starbuck 1924

[2293] [S126] The History of Nantucket Island, Alexander Starbuck 1924

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John Whelan

____ - ____

Family 1 : Lucy C Alverson

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